Sutekh The Destroyer
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Tardis History!In this Topic im am gonna post all the info i can find on all the different TARDISes that appear in the tv episodes. if anybody has any other info to add i would appreciate it!
So far the absolutely confirmed things i have are;
The Dr's TARDIS - the last of 305 type 40's
The TV Movie TARDIS 7th-8th dr's TARDIS - Mark/type 40 has cloister room, eye of harmony, likes humans.
The Ranis TARDIS - newer than type 40 - Can be summoned by Stattenheim remote control
The Master's TARDIS- newer than type 40
The War Chief TARDIS - newer than type 40 - episode The War Games
The Monk's Tardis - Mark 4 (able to camo) can stay stationary in space and time
Type 102 TARDIS - (8th Dr's first companion Compassion) fully sentient, and able to take on humanoid form.
A good website to look at for history on the TARDISes in Dr Who is http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/TARDIS#Other_TARDISes
on this site you will find references to all the control rooms that have appeared in the dr who series, and as far as i can see they hint that the TARDIS has 4 different control rooms, and a labarinth of corridors and rooms. im not sure wether i buy that or not, but it does make more sense then the inside just changes.
im a little disappointed they don't try to explain why the dr's TARDIS suddenly for the TV movie, has an Eye of Harmony. Previously the only Eye was on Gallifrey, anyways lots of good information there, they have spent a lot of time researching for this site, i suggest you guys check it out.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/TARDIS
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Deako
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FINALLY! I've been waiting for someone to do a thread about this kind of thing for ages
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Der Martin
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TardiiErr. Apologies....I posted this one in the other Tardis/God forum. It has since occurred to me that it is possibly beter suited to this one. Sorry to those of you who might be peeved at reading it twice.
Tardises (Tardii maybe) are not all the same. Each is symbiotically linked to its owner. How and when the Tardis becomes linked to its pilot is not yet clear, although it would appear that the link is forged in the Eye of harmony at the heart of the Tardis, pretty darn close to the time vortex I fancy.
The most modern Tardis to date was the Ranis Tardis which the Doctors sixth incarnation becomes rather jealous of in Mark of the Rani. I shall have to watch it again to remember the particular component that the doctor wanted to get his hands on maybe someone else can post it here and remind me.
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Deako
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I really don't have a clue... I've started watching Doctor Who on UKTV Gold.
So hopefully, I will soon be able to answer questions like this!
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Sutekh The Destroyer
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i wonder if the war chief and the master are the same timelord? i know it has never been confirmed, but isn't their room for RTD to bring the war chief back. surely that would be easier to do then bringing back the master. also imagine how pissed he would be, what was it 1066 or something? that would have been hell for a timelord, especially with his sweet TARDIS being like 2 ft wide inside!
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Sutekh The Destroyer
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if you want to find early who episode look on p2p networks.
i work in the music business so i am finacially effected by things like p2p, & bittorrent. so i don't really want to endourse their products, but that being said there are only 5-10 of the many Dr Who tv stories not avaliable as torrents.
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sciscens
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I'd also discussed with someone if the Doctor really does have the same T.A.R.D.I.S. all the time. Because of it's inside looking different everytime. But I suppose if you're going to practically live in your ship for somewhere around 900 years, you'd want to redecorate from time to time.
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kat
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i think that the Dr's TARDIS was the same actual vehicle for each of his incarnations, i get this from the fact that it's still stuck as a 1940's police box, if each incarnation got a new TARDIS this fault would surely have been rectified??
i also think that with each new incarnation the Dr's personality alters, and the TARDIS, being linked to the Dr telepathicly, alters its interior accordingly.
just my two cents
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Zhord
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Well thought out. I think Kat's explaination is correct.
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Berethor
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i think that kats idea was prbably right but i came up with another (probably worse) his tardis must be quite old, right. so he'd have to repair it.
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kat
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i seem to remember it being hit at least once, yes...
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Zhord
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After what its been through, the TARDIS does need a good spring clean.
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kat
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that hatch rose ripped open will need resealing for a start...
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Der Martin
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Tardishmmm . It is also possible that Tardii regenerate too. Just a theory I havent seen it anywhere b4.
Quick comment... In Castrovalva (Peter davisons first episode) half of the Tardis is actually jettisoned and lost forever. The zero room was jettisoned and maybe even a control room or two. The Tardis may have any number of control rooms.
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Sutekh The Destroyer
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yeah i think it has 4 or 5 control rooms but they have never actually said that. i do remeber it being said once that it was the size of a small city. also it must have at least 3 bedrooms as far as i can see, and the doctor and his companions all have to eat and got to the toilet so i guess it's logical to assume it has a kitchen and a few loo's.
wait a minute the dr cant sit on a crapper.... that just wouldn't be right...
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Der Martin
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Actually Tardii (as I like to call them) can ,and do on occasion, materialize inside other Tardii. It happened in Logopolis, Tom bakers final episode. It is somewhat of a dimensional anomaly but entirely possible. From what I can make out Its kind of like two mirrors standing opposite each each other. If you look into one of them from a certain angle, the reflection goes on for what seems like infinity. If you walk out the door of the inner tardis then you find yourself in the outer Tardis, trying to leave the outer tardis you dimesionally transmaterialie (or something like that) into the inner tardis dimension again. So its all quite simple you see. In Logopolis the doctor tried to fix the anomally by materializing his Tardis underwater with the other Tardis inside, thus theoretically flushing the other tardis (and its pilot) out. He miscalculated somewhat (due to a lack of funding in the BBCs special effects department) and crash landed on the bank of the Thames. Memorys not too good but I seem to remember that the resulting bump did the trick and ousted the intruding Tardis.
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Sutekh The Destroyer
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wow thats really interesting, thanx for that post, funily enough i was gonna watch logopolis tonight, so i guess i would have found that out.
what about Tardii materializing inside the core of a planet, has that ever happened? and if not why not?
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kat
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cos it's too darn hot?
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Der Martin
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Well Tardises(tardii) materializing inside the core of a Planet im not quite sure about. I do however seem to remember that both the Cybermen and the Daleks have tried to mine/bore out the earth's core in order to replace it with a remote control navegational device that could send it anywhere in time and space and do that race's bidding. In fact that is what happened to Mondas, the original home of the cybermen (who are actually only amalgamtions of human spare parts). Mondas shared earths orbit at one time and wandered- navigated off so that the cybermen could be free. They only came back to earth when Mondas' power ran out. Then the cybermen (now fully fledged killing Machines) tried to do the same with the earths core as they did to mondas'. The Doctor, however, foiled their plans, and they were forced to take refuge on Telos (the cybermens adoted/stole/bought from Tardises 'r' us Planet.
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