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Sutekh The Destroyer
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really!!! thats a good episode man, did you watch it?
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Deako
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Yes.  I liked the part the building blew up and the Cybermen died. Yay!
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Sutekh The Destroyer
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or did they????
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Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:54 pm |
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Deako
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Well obviously not... As they're back in Series 2... Unless the Cybermen eps. in Series 2 are before the episode 'Attack of the Cybermen'!
I still liked the big explosion non-the-less!
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:32 pm |
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kat
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that's the beauty of time travel 
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:39 pm |
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Deako
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It sure is... *Stares at wall for ages*
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:46 pm |
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Sutekh The Destroyer
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i wonder if my toilet is a tardis....
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Zhord
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I have just been thinking about the Adam/Davros theory. Quite a lot of people, and I for one, believe Adam to be Davros or a "tool" to bring the Dalek's back to life.
However, as much as I would love this plot to happen, how about relating Adam with the Cybermen?
Here are a few reasons why it could be used to bring the Daleks back:
1) If we think that Adam was at any point harbouring feeling for Rose, and then felt betrayed by her then he may have - at some point - felt it was ADAM V ROSE. Now, let's take away some of those letters, in order... *DA* V ROS*
2) A.D.A.M ( A Dalek A Man ) = DAVROS half man half dalek
But, could he also be related to the Cybermen? Will Adam bring them back via the "I am the God of All Cybermen" scenario. Reasons for this is that, ok, a Dalek appeared in the same episode Adam did and we jumped to conclusions that he has got something to do with the Daleks - and maybe he has. But rerember what the 8th Doctor said, "Humans are always seeing patterns which aren't there." What else appeared in that episode of "Dalek?" A head of a Cyberman... Just a thought...
Plus, here is a redesigned version of the Cybermen. Could it be the ones used in the series.
(And I also wanted to post this: Raxacoricofallapatorius: for safe keeping.)
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Sutekh The Destroyer
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hmm very interesting post Zhord. i do think that the adam/davros theory is very interesting, but i would deffinately be more into the idea of adam and the cybermen. to me the that seems to work very well with what we know of the cybermen. i like it, let's hope we see adam king of the cybermen..... he could also use his chip in his head to control or communicate with them, just a thought..... also remember that adam probably had access to the cybermen head that was in the glass case..... what do you think? would he have brought them back because he knew the doctor would be scared of them.....
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Zhord
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Although Adam does not seem to be vengefull, he does have an anger-streak, sometimes having a go at the Doctor, like in "Dalek."
But, like all geniuses, turn into baddies. He could use his wit to use the Cybermen to defeat the Doctor.
Lets Recap:
But, we know that it was the McGann Doctor which fought in the Time War, (Read "The Galaxy Cronicles" novel) but we don't know what happened, in detail.
Ok, it was the Time Lords vs the Daleks. The Doctor destroyed his people inorder to defeat the Daleks - I think. The McGann Doctor must have died and then regenerated at the beginning just before Episode 1 to CE. However, this means that the Time War spans inbetween "Doctor Who TV Movie" to the new current series.
So, with the Time Lords gone, the Doctor decides to continue rescuing people - but not get close to anyone as he feels guilt.
So, the Dalek from "Dalek" had fallen through time and killed itself. Did the Emperor fall through time? And then he decided to turn humans into Daleks - which would explain why the Doctor says that they are, what was the word, more human or something? We must have jumped to conclusion that they were to be connected to the Dalek from "Dalek."
So, after this has happened.. and to get back on track, where are the Cybermen? Did they also perish in the Time War or are they laying dormant, ready for Adam to awake them - or recreate them?
As much as I like the Time War saga, we don't know what actually happens. It would be great to create the Time War in the cinemas - or even a TV Movie - to then know what happens. (Although it would destroy its secrets that make the series amazing)
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Deako
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I don't think Adam will ever make a come-back! 
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kat
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don't think, or don't want to? 
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:42 pm |
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Deako
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Both. I hated Adam... The silly daft berk!
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kat
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come on, the best bad guys started out as silly daft berks!
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Deako
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Did the Master?
Did the Daleks?
Did the Cybermen? -- Wait, don't answer this last one!
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